The Recovering AI Skeptic
Daniel Sarosi — founder of Great Wall Connect, advising foreign companies on bringing digital products into China. Born in Germany, Hungarian by descent, Canadian by citizenship, and in Hong Kong for twenty years. Computer science degree with a software engineering specialisation; a JVM specialist across Java, Scala and Kotlin. Previously built an IoT platform connecting close to a thousand textile machines worldwide, running on Kubernetes across clouds including Alibaba Cloud's Shanghai region. Works with the German Chamber of Commerce, and has recently incorporated Chambre Asia, connecting businesses across Asia and Europe.
Chapters
- 0:00Intro
- 0:21Back in Causeway Bay — a new studio
- 1:11Who is today's guest?
- 2:08Great Wall Connect — cross-border business
- 3:11Meet Daniel
- 3:26Born in Germany, Hungarian by descent
- 4:34Twenty years in Hong Kong
- 5:04A JVM specialist — Java, Scala, Kotlin
- 5:27Turning around on AI
- 6:17What bad code actually is
- 7:07Good code is code that's easy to change
- 8:02Why nobody can tell you how long it takes
- 9:51Starting his own business
- 10:02Bringing a digital product into China
- 10:48Octopus, and China's mobile-first leap
- 11:45The firewall and other hurdles
- 12:19North and south China behave differently
- 13:02Building a partner network in China
- 13:45Hong Kong as super connector
- 14:22Why he was an AI skeptic
- 15:05Vibe coding vs software engineering
- 15:40What 'best practice' actually means
- 16:26Dreamweaver — when five lines became twenty
- 17:22AI writing 2,000 lines instead of 20
- 18:03Data security is the real concern
- 18:54'They left the database open'
- 19:34Not locking the door, then posting the address
- 20:23A sourdough app is fine. A legal database is not.
- 21:14On Claude Code and the hype cycle
- 21:57What a responsible manager should do
- 24:02An IoT platform for German textile machinery
- 25:34A thousand machines, 40 GB a day
- 26:02Cutting cost by working remotely
- 27:27Multi-tenancy — keeping customer data apart
- 27:54Kubernetes and Alibaba Cloud Shanghai
- 29:58Healthy skepticism
- 30:42Talking to Alexander about vibe coding
- 31:31People have always picked up coding
- 32:37Vibe coding as a way to learn
- 33:13Every hype cycle looks like this one
- 33:33Kubernetes — more servers, fewer people
- 33:59Claude Code for AWS and the hyperscalers
- 34:23Letting AI drive the DevOps side
- 35:12Finding GLM, and using what's local
- 36:11The Claude Code refugees
- 36:46Building something, keeping costs low
- 37:14Ali, the CTO — and why him
- 38:25What Great Wall Connect actually does
- 38:41Travelling China with overseas delegations
- 39:41Solve the customer's pain, don't wait for the call
- 40:18The factory owner from Guangdong
- 40:33Not every company has a Tony LC Sign
- 40:54How LC Sign went viral
- 41:20“I don’t speak Mandarin”
- 41:33The 9 a.m. reminder that gets ignored
- 42:12Stinky tofu, and knowing your foods
- 44:402008 Beijing Olympics as the dividing line
- 46:12Two years in Taiwan, then back to China
- 47:05Not as backward as you thought
- 47:59Societal rules — Taoism and Confucius
- 48:43The bus with more passengers than seats
- 49:46The checkpoint, and organised flexibility
- 50:19Chambre Asia — the other organisation
- 50:29Helping Chinese companies find opportunity
- 51:19Formalising the LA partnership
- 52:00Automating matchmaking — the concierge service
- 52:49What Chinese firms actually fear
- 53:30Compliance, and who do you even talk to
- 54:07The Gulf, and markets that are larger
- 54:53Building the portal
- 55:27Why Chinese websites look the way they do
- 56:08Aesthetics, East and West
- 56:35Using AI to rate the websites
- 57:34AI as a sophisticated pattern matcher
- 58:30Institutional knowledge and history
- 58:59“100% AI and secure” — wouldn’t trust it
- 59:18Thanks and wrap-up
About This Episode
Most of our guests arrive already sold on AI. Daniel Sarosi did not. A JVM specialist with twenty years in Hong Kong, he watched people generate code that broke every practice he had spent a career defending — and said so. This is the conversation about what changed his mind and what did not. Along the way: what bad code actually is in plain language, why he still will not trust non-engineers to vibe code anything that matters, why data security is the part nobody talks about, and what foreign companies get wrong about entering China. Then the second half: what Great Wall Connect does day to day, what living in Taiwan and travelling China taught him about rules and flexibility, and where he actually lands on AI — a sophisticated pattern matcher he would not trust to build a secure system alone.