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EP09Coming Soon~1 hour

Expert Systems, Agent Risk & the Fixer Economy

Ronald Yu
Co-founder, MakeBell; Visiting Fellow, CityU School of Law

Co-founder, MakeBell. Engineer-turned-lawyer at the intersection of AI, IP, and digital evidence. Long before AI became a boardroom imperative, Ron was asking: what happens when law governs technologies it doesn't fully understand? With a mechanical engineering background, multiple postgraduate law degrees, and experience as a computer forensics examiner, systems engineer, and co-inventor on patents in EdTech, AI, and IP tokenization. Former roles at IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Wang Laboratories, and Federal Express. Advisor to WIPO Green. Visiting Fellow and lecturer at City University of HK School of Law and CUHK.

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About This Episode

Ronald's tech career predates AI being a boardroom imperative by decades — IBM (on the same GM manufacturing team as pre-Craigslist Craig Newmark), Wang Labs, HP, FedEx Singapore (where the client-server system later used for Apple/Foxconn supply chain was first architected), then computer forensics, then law. He co-founded MakeBell with Kenneth, teaches AI Law at CityU and CUHK, and is building ARA-eVals — an open-source agent risk assessment project. We dig into the symbolic-to-generative-to-neurosymbolic arc, why vibe-coded agents will break at enterprise scale (and the coming "fixer economy" for cleanup specialists), and one oral-exam trick for assessing students in the GPT era.

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